[Workplace 1543] Re: VESLBrian, Dr Donna J G djgbrian at utk.eduThu Jul 24 14:04:29 EDT 2008
I think VESL is still the term used in California to denote Workplace ESL (see, for instance, https://www.casas.org/home/index.cfm?fuseaction=pp.welcome&VisitDescID=1 59, http://www.ccsf.edu/Resources/Teacher_Resource_Center/vesl.html and http://www.miracosta.cc.ca.us/Instruction/communityEducation/ESL/vesl.ht m), and the University of Illinois at Chicago also uses the term in its Bridge Training Programs (see http://www.uic.edu/cuppa/techbridge/PDF/Framework_Dev.PDF and http://www.uic.edu/cuppa/techbridge/PDF/VESLGuide_040100.PDF). Donna Donna Brian Moderator, LINCS Workplace Literacy Discussion List Off-list contact djgbrian at utk.edu To post a message: workplace at nifl.gov <mailto:workplace at nifl.gov> To subscribe/unsubscribe/change options/access archives: http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/workplace <http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/workplace> ________________________________ From: workplace-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:workplace-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Janet Isserlis Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:43 PM To: The Workplace Literacy Discussion List Subject: [Workplace 1542] Re: VESL VESL is an old, old term that many of us used in the late 80's/90's, to talk about Vocational ESL - up to and including language/culture connected to employment for those not yet in the workplace. A cottage industry, of sorts, had sprung up to develop and publish materials - partially in response to the influx of refugees from Southeast Asia. Some of the work that came out of this, like Thomas Jupp's Industrial English, and a lot of the work that Heide Wrigley was (and is) doing has been great. Other pieces have fallen by the wayside, as things will do. Janet Isserlis ________________________________ From: Barbara Tondre <btondre at earthlink.net> Reply-To: The Workplace Literacy Discussion List <workplace at nifl.gov> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:28:52 -0500 To: <agallup at essentiallanguage.com>, 'The Workplace Literacy Discussion List' <workplace at nifl.gov> Subject: [Workplace 1536] VESL Amber's use of the term VESL caught my attention. Business and industry is beginning to use this term but I'm not sure what they mean by it. Do we dare include defining this term in our discussion? Barbara Tondre ________________________________ From: workplace-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:workplace-bounces at nifl.gov] <mailto:workplace-bounces at nifl.gov%5d> On Behalf Of Amber Gallup Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:05 PM To: The Workplace Literacy Discussion List Subject: [Workplace 1531] Managing expectations In response to Pat Sawyer's last message - Several posters have alluded to the challenge of managing the client's expectations. It's common to hear questions like that which Pat mentioned, "How many weeks is this going to take?" I have found that it will take much more than one conversation before my clients really begin to understand what I'm saying regarding the process and time commitment of language learning and the goals of the course (which we develop together as much as possible through the needs analysis process.) I have found that the needs analysis itself is useful not only to identify students' and workplace needs, but also to bring out into the light of day the stakeholders' expectations....which are often unrealistic and/or conflicting with other stakeholders' expectations. The needs analysis process provides an opportunity to do the very important work of getting all stakeholders on the same page...it's a little teachable moment. If important stakeholders have different ideas of why we're doing this (say, union and management) and how it will impact them....that can deal a death blow to a program! I always use an example from a electricans' union for which I once put together a VESL program when I first began this work: In the needs analysis, I did my language task analysis and I interviewed some workers, the union leaders, the apprentice coordinator, the organizer, and the contractor (the "big boss"). I felt good that this part of the needs analysis had been thorough and everybody shared an understanding of our goals. Yet, by the end of the semester, the otherwise very successful class was almost done away with!....why? Because the workers' foremen (who were not getting jobs finished on time because they lost some of their crew for a few hours each week) were angry and refusing to let their workers leave for the class. I had neglected to make them part of the process, and their differing expectations and needs led to revolt. We modified the course schedule and luckily continued on, but I learned some lessons about needs analysis. Also, I liked Miriam's description of how she did her observations (language task analysis) BEFORE she interviewed the various stakeholders. I'll be using that tip...it's a great idea - because it gives us more information on which to base our questions to stakeholders, and as Pat already mentioned, often the management (or HR, or union leader, etc.) will just say, "I want them to learn English," and not be able to go much farther than that. Amber Amber Gallup Director, Essential Language (202) 234-4565 www.essentiallanguage.com <mailto:agallup at essentiallanguage.com> <mailto:agallup at essentiallanguage.com> ________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------- National Institute for Literacy Workplace Literacy mailing list Workplace at nifl.gov To unsubscribe or change your subscription settings, please go to http://www.nifl.gov/mailman/listinfo/workplace Email delivered to janet_isserlis at brown.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.nifl.gov/pipermail/workplace/attachments/20080724/525c4dc5/attachment-0001.html
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