Clearly, if one¹s proficiency is such that obtaining a GED in Spanish would
be more accessible, then that¹s what should be shot for.  It makes no sense
to put securing such a credential on hold until meeting English language
proficiencies, which can take many, many years (if ever).


On 1/11/08 11:31 AM, "Adam W Nathanson/nathansonaw/O/VCU"
<nathansonaw at vcu.edu> wrote:


> 

> Soon GED certificates will specify whether learners achieved their diplomas in

> English, French or Spanish.  Obviously, in the  United States the English one

> will be more valued by employers and educational institutions.  So I think

> that whatever one's native language is, here in the U.S. it's best to shoot

> for a GED in English.

> ------------------------------------------------------

> Adam Nathanson

> Financial Literacy Project Coordinator

> Virginia Commonwealth University

> Division of Community Engagement

> Mary & Frances Youth Center. Rm. 112

> 120 South Linden Street, Box 843062

> Richmond, Virginia 23284-3062

> 

> (804) 828-7126 p / (804) 827-1739 f

> nathansonaw at vcu.edu

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> 

> "Chrissie A. Klinger" <cklinger at crsd.k12.pa.us>

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> [Workplace 1129] Re: dual language programs

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> 

> I just wanted to share something interesting I recently heard from an ESL

> learner.  She said when she went for her GED test they offered to give her the

> Spanish version and she said no.  Her reason was that she wasn¹t confident

> that whoever may have translated/created the Spanish version would do it

> properly and she felt if she took the test in English she would know for sure

> what the questions asked.  She did very well on her test and continues to work

> on her English skills almost as a hobby.  So, it¹s always important to think

> about the resources we use and the translations that might occur.  There are

> always different dialects in very language that can confuse some learners.

>  

> Chrissie Klinger 

> "Doing things the same way and expecting a different result is a sign of

> insanity"-Albert Einstein

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> 

> From: workplace-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:workplace-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf

> Of Adam W Nathanson/nathansonaw/O/VCU

> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 9:05 AM

> To: The Workplace Literacy Discussion List

> Cc: Workplace Literacy Discussion List; workplace-bounces at nifl.gov

> Subject: [Workplace 1128] dual language programs

>  

> 

> Terry and Everyone,

> 

> Dual language programming sounds very exciting.  I have always wanted to try

> English/Spanish GED classes towards learners achieving GEDs in English.  The

> opportunity to provide occasional clarification in Spanish for high-level

> learners ESOL learners pursuing English GEDs would be great.  I also like the

> emphasizing your work on vocational opportunity for those who are literate in

> two or more languages with English being one.

> 

> I find that sometimes literacy in the person's native language is not up to

> speed for the workplace/professional environment, so in order to use the other

> language(s) as a job market selling point, some adults need to do a little

> supplementary work in their native languages.

> 

> Thinking small, maybe some of this could be initially addressed as skills

> shares at the community level with houses of worship and rec centers.  Native

> English speakers could learn Arabic, Korean, or Spanish while ESOL learners

> acquired English from them.  Of course that's probably not up to snuff for

> vocational/professional demands, but it's a start.  Perhaps it already exists?

> There are probably lots of basic toolkits for learning business level

> languages. 

> 

> Adam 

> ------------------------------------------------------

> Adam Nathanson

> Financial Literacy Project Coordinator

> Virginia Commonwealth University

> Division of Community Engagement

> Mary & Frances Youth Center. Rm. 112

> 120 South Linden Street, Box 843062

> Richmond, Virginia 23284-3062

> 

> (804) 828-7126 p / (804) 827-1739 f

> nathansonaw at vcu.edu

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> 

> "Brian, Dr Donna J G" <djgbrian at utk.edu>

> Sent by: workplace-bounces at nifl.gov 01/10/2008 03:13 PM

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> [Workplace 1126] Welcome a new member to the Workplace Literacy

> Discussion List 

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> 

> Please welcome a new member to the Workplace Literacy Discussion List.  Do any

> of you have information you could share with Terry about dual language

> workplace literacy programs?

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> 

>   

> I¹m Terry Shearer.  I am an Adult Education Specialist for a regional

> education center.  I have been in the field of education for 30 years.  I have

> developed and taught workplace programs mostly in the Houston area.

>   

> I joined the Workplace Literacy discussion list because I am very interested

> in developing dual language programs that develop work skills in two

> languages.  The difference between Bilingual Vocational Programs and Dual

> Language Vocational Programs is that the student¹s language skills are

> developed as a vocational skill and not just used to transfer skills to an

> English speaking environment.

>   

> I coordinated a program like this from 1995 to 1998 when funding (Carl

> Perkins) ran out for this demonstration project.  The project was able to

> place many students because business and industry has a growing need for

> workers with bilingual skills.  I have been researching dual language programs

> in Europe that are funded by the European Union.  I would welcome any

> information about dual language programs in the US.

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> Donna 

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