How could I have missed this...

All women's groups (I can't speak of all men's groups) are able to  
talk about issues that don't arise in combination groups.  Does  
anybody have info on all men's groups? In women's groups--I am  
referring here to what Mev Miller does in her conferences--stories  
are told and written about issues that specifically  talk to women's  
issues, as they are lived, and I have been educated in these issues,  
and have found this kind of group invaluable.  They  have increased  
my self-respect and my respect for other women living their lives and  
solving problems on their own.


There is a sameness in the stories usually told / written about women  
that leaves out a whole lot.  Sylvia Plath's suicide, for example.

Did she have help in her home, raising the children?

Why an oven?

How many women commit suicide in this manner?  In any manner?

How about money problems?

Did she have her own bank account?  What percent of women have their  
own bank accounts?

Were women's support groups available?  Are women's support groups a  
recent phenomenon?

Who owned the house?  (Or was it an apartment?)


....and so on...

Andrea


On Jul 15, 2008, at 3:03 AM, Ochieng kh wrote:


> Society is still evolving. In the fullness of time, the differences  

> will no doubt disappear. The solution is not in  having separate  

> classes for male and female students. The solution, in my view,  

> inheres in shared learning through enhanced sensitivity and  

> participatory approaches. The issues probably recoil around "ego  

> and egoism". Shared sense of value and importance between and  

> within gender is attainable.

>

> Ochieng M.K

>

>

>

> --- On Mon, 7/14/08, Daphne Greenberg <ALCDGG at langate.gsu.edu> wrote:

>

> From: Daphne Greenberg <ALCDGG at langate.gsu.edu>

> Subject: [Diversity 69] Re: gender separation?

> To: "The Diversity and Literacy Discussion List" <diversity at nifl.gov>

> Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 2:33 PM

>

> that is a good question-I don't know. But I am wondering if this is  

> even

> something we as a field would want to suggest and push? It seems to  

> me that

> some posters were advocating specific types of approaches for  

> males. If that is

> the case, it seems to me that this points to separate classes for   

> women and

> men. I am just wondering if people think separate classes would be  

> a good idea.

> If yes, what would the classes for women look like? And what would  

> happen to

> people who don't fit the stereotypes of male and female?

> Daphne

>

> >>> "Katherine Gotthardt"

> <katherine.gotthardt at gmail.com> 7/13/2008 9:16 PM >>>

> Daphne, even if students opted for a single gender class, would the  

> typical

> school budget be able to handle it?

>

> On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Daphne Greenberg

> <alcdgg at langate.gsu.edu>

> wrote:

>

> > Thanks to everyone for contributing to an interesting discussion  

> on males

> > and education. Based on the posts that I have read, I am  

> wondering if some

> > people would propose having separate classes for males and  

> separate ones

> for

> > females. There were some posters who had very specific ideas  

> about what

> > changes would need to be made in order to attract males to attend  

> and stay

> > in adult literacy classes. Are there specific aspects that people  

> think

> > would help attract females to attend and stay in adult literacy  

> classes?

> If

> > yes, are people proposing separate classes? And if yes, what  

> about people

> > who don't fit stereotypical notions of what males or females want?

> > Daphne

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