Return-Path: <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g11FwAu19037; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:58:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 10:58:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <16c.817f4c3.298c1457@aol.com> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: AndresMuro@aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:7131] Re: TESOL 2002 Roommate Finder X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Status: O Content-Length: 3028 Lines: 44 Ujwala: I've been to TESOL a few times and all I can say is that this is probably the conference that manages to spend more $$$ attract more people and have the largest number of boring, repetitious, traditional, workshops and presentations. Neoliberalism at its best. Because it is so popular, everybody and their dogs submit proposals which are grouped into topics of interest. At the same time, the number of presentations that are selected by topics of interest depend % of people that are interested in a given topic. The majority of people are interested in learning specific techniques to teach ESL in the classroom. So they will accept more proposals addressing classroom techniques. Less people are interested in social issues, language theory, gender, health, etc. Therefore, they select less topics from these categories. Therefore, if you want to get your proposal accepted you need to dress it up as a classroom technique presentation and give it a name such as: 'Songs puzzles and other games to facilitate acquisition of the verb 'to be' in its perfect forms'; or 'Lets have fun w/object pronouns'; or 'Drill not, but engage your students:rock and roll to teach the passive voice' I could almost guarantee that one of these titles may earn you a spot at TESOL 2003. This gives me and idea for our program as a fund raiser. I'll be selling proposal titles and abstracts for people wanting to present at TESOL. I'll charge $50.00. $5.00 for submitting a proposal with your name and $45.00 if it gets accepted. Andres PS: Just in case anyone took me seriously, the proposal idea is a joke In a message dated Fri, 1 Feb 2002 9:53:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Ujwala Samant" <ujwalasamant@hotmail.com> writes: > Meral, > > I don't know why, but this is the second time I've been turned down by > TESOL. I am assuming this turn down anyway. Since I am not a TESOL member, > and not really a TESOL practitioner, I have to say that it did not give me > any sleepless nights. What does concern me is that I think my research would > inform the adult TESOL groups, because our study looks at what goes on in > adult ESOL classrooms in the US. I saw it as a venue to disseminate > findings. Maybe they didn't receive my proposal. I don't know. I doubt it > had to do with me being different, because from what I'm told, the proposals > are read sans names and addresses. > > Anyway, another year, another conference. > > What your friend went through was outright racism. I just had a friend tell > me that she was offered a job at a pharmaceutical company, after having done > her post-doc there, by her boss at a really low salary. When she asked why, > he told her that they offered Asians less money anyway because they are > willing to work for less!!! To her face. What interesting times we live in. > > cheers > Ujwala Samant > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com
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